Was it Arthur Doyle & Mary or Their Children Who First Made the Crossing From Ireland to Canada?

County Kilkenny

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This blog has been under an assumption for many years that brothers Owen and Charles Doyle were the two Doyles who left Graiguenamanagh, Ireland for Canada. However, new genealogy indexes have provided some great new data! You can find this data on the Facebook group: Descendants of Arthur Doyle and Mary of Graiguenamanagh, Ireland.

Here are some discovered facts about Arthur - the patriarch of the North America Doyle Family from Graiuenamanagh :

1) Arthur Doyle was born in 1780 in Graiguenamanagh, Ireland, County Kilkenny.

2) Arthur Doyle was in Quebec  in route to Montreal on July 17, 1828.

3) So, he made it to Canada!

But ...

1) Did he complete the journey from Quebec to Montreal? Or did he pass away during the journey?

2) Did he arrive in Tyendinaga Township/Marysville-Ontario in Canada?

3) If so, perhaps he passed away fairly early on and was buried in a make-shift grave with a marker that has been lost.

4) His death/burial information are still to be found. So many possibilities.

5) But, he did make it to Canada!

This is fuzzy, and I'm not sure what ancestry research place it come from, but it asserts that Arthur died in Ontario, Canada. Click here to see the document a little closer.

 

And here's evidence that his wife Mary lived with their son Martin (other records indicate that she lived with her son Michael). This excerpt comes from ...

... the book "The Story of Holy Name of Mary Parish" ... which has a large section on the Doyles from Graiguenamanagh, Ireland who settled in Tyendinaga Township/Marysville, Ontario, Canada.

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Are You a Descendant of Arthur Doyle and Mary of Graignuemanagh, Ireland (County Kilkenny)?

An Emigrant Ship in Dublin Bay - 1800s

If you believe you might be a descendant of Arthur Doyle and Mary Lownsdale* of Graignuemanagh, Ireland (County Kilkenny), consider requesting to join this Facebook group (see link below):

*For a time, it was suggested that a Mary Lownsdale was the wife of our Arthur Doyle; however, other details, such as church affiliation, hometown, and names of children do not match. So, there is a confidence that our Arthur most likely married a different Mary ... whose maiden name is yet to be determined. 

Facebook Group Description ...

Descendants of Arthur Doyle and Mary - Graiguenamanagh - Tyendinaga

A Great Discovery Made!
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Corrections for many a Doyle Ancestry.com chart!

Hopefully some day soon we'll learn our Mary's Maiden Name!

A Doyle Descendant Visiting Graiguenamanagh, Ireland - the home of this Doyle Branch!

 

Amy Sinnigen-Ogburn (a Doyle descendant) and her husband John at M. Doyle Grocery & Bar in Graiguenamanagh, Ireland.

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5 Fast Facts on Graiguenamanagh, Ireland - The Origins of the Doyle Dining Room Family!

Graiguenamanagh, Ireland - 1997
 (County Kilkenny)
photo by Andreas Franz Borchert

It was Arthur Doyle and his wife Mary ... who made that move ... who got on a boat and left for a New World, for new hope, a better life. They (along with some of their adult children purportedly left Graiguenamanagh, Ireland circa 1820s/1830s and found themselves in Tyendinaga Township/Marysville, Ontario, Canada. Some (all?) of their children who also moved to Canada are: Charles, Owen, Bridget, Catherine, Martin, and Michael.

Five Fast Facts on Graiguenamanagh, Ireland:    

1) You can try to pronounce it: Gráig na Manach (GRAIG-na-MAN-ah).

2) Graiguenamanagh means, "Village of the Monks."

3) Graiguenamanagh is home to a 13th Century Cistercian Abbey (now a parish church) known as Duiske Abbey.

4) Not far from Graiguenamanagh are the ruins of the medieval Ullard Church — which was founded by St. Fiachra (FEE-uh-kra) who later moved to France and became known as St. Fiacre (fee-AHKr). St. Fiachra/Fiacre is the patron saint of gardeners.

5) Graiguenamanagh has great hiking trails and one of the few remaining authentic Irish woolen mills, creating cloth from the fleece of Irish sheep (Cushendale Woollen Mills).

A St. Fiachra/Fiacre Garden Plaque

The Feast of St. Fiachra/Fiacre is August 30.

Interested in learning more about Graiguenamanagh, Ireland? 

Try this book ... 

Graiguenamanagh—a town and its people

by John Joyce

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According to Google Maps, Graiguenamanagh (in County Kilkenny) is southwest-ish from Dublin (County Dublin) … about a 1 hour, 33 minutes drive (80 miles).

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Can You Trace Your Ancestry to: Arthur Doyle & Mary of Graiguenamanagh, Ireland?

Graiguenamanagh, Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
photo by: Humphrey Bolton / The riverside from the bridge, Graiguenamanagh, Co. Kilkenny / CC BY-SA 2.0

 An Invitation ...

It seems fair to assume that Arthur Doyle & Mary (maiden name not yet known) have thousands of descendants with a wide range of surnames living now. Do you think you can trace your ancestry to Arthur Doyle & Mary? If so, please let us know your connection in the comment section below. Or better yet, please send a photo of yourself/your family with an explanation of the lineage, and I will add you to this post. It would be fun to create a collection of various family members at the Doyle Dining Room blog. You get Bonus Points if you have a photo of yourself at the memorial/tombstone of any of the Arthur Doyle & Mary family member at the Holy Name of Mary Cemetery in Canada! 😇 By The Way ... if you like to vacations at Alexandria Bay in the Thousand Islands, this cemetery is only 72 miles away! About a 1 hour and 15 minute drive (do remember your passport if you are not Canadian, though!). 

Please send your photo and lineage information to: Theresa Doyle-Nelson. 

Here's an Example ...

Pictured is John G. Doyle with his wife Lauren Saurini Doyle; they live in Rochester, NY.

- John G. Doyle is a son of J. Gregory Doyle. 

- J. Gregory Doyle is a son of John Gordon Doyle.

- John Gordon Doyle is a son of John Albert Doyle.

- John Albert Doyle is a son of Owen Eugene Doyle.

- Owen Eugene Doyle is a son of Owen Doyle (who emigrated from Graiguenamanagh, Ireland) & Margaret Shaughnessy (who emigrated from Ireland). 

- Owen Doyle is a son of Arthur Doyle and Mary (maiden name unknown), also from Graiguenamanagh, Ireland.

*This photo was taken circa 1998 or 1999 at the tombstone/memorial of Owen Doyle & Margaret Shaughnessy at Holy Name of Mary Cemetery in Marysville, Canada.

If you suspect you might be a descendant of Arthur Doyle & Mary and Owen & Margaret from Ireland, please take a look at the page below; it shares the names of their 9 children. Perhaps this list of names will help you discover a connection ...

The Story of Holy Name of Mary Parish; 1837-1987 (p. 77)
Please Click Here for an Updated Version (1837-2012)

This photo and list of names might also help you to find a link. It's of one of Arthur Doyle & Mary's great-grandsons: John Albert Doyle and his family ...

The John Albert Doyle & Florence May Bates Doyle Family
c. 1930

Front Row L🠆R: 

John Albert Doyle & Florence Bates Doyle (parents)

Middle Row L🠆R: 

Robert Eugene, Marion (m. Otto Frazer), Rosemary (m. Robert Francis Dowling Jr)

Back Row L🠆R: 

Arlington T. (Arlie), Marjorie (m. Benedict Miller), John Gordon (the groom!), Florence "Honey" (m. Crabill Waldron), Kenneth V. (Ken/Kenny), Leo (who died in an auto accident in 1935 at the age of 22.)

* Worth noting: John Albert & Florence May had four other children who died very young: 

- A set of twins (year unknown; perhaps between Arlington & Kenneth).

- Dorothy Marie died at the age of 3 in 1912.

- William died at infancy in 1918. 

Some helpful links ...

Descendants of Arthur Doyle and Mary - Graiguenamanagh - Tyendinaga   ~Facebook Group

Owen Eugene Doyle @ FindAGrave.com

John Albert Doyle @ FindAGrave.com

Florence May Bates Doyle @ FindAGrave.com

Holy Name of Mary Parish in Canada

Tyendinaga Township/Marysville, Ontario, Canada

The First Doyle to Arrive in North America

A String of Five Generations from Arthur Doyle & Mary

Graiguenamanagh, County Kilkenny, Ireland

If you have an Ancestry.com account, you can find many of these people and loads of clippings and photos within the "Marjorie R. Frazer" Family Tree. Marjorie is a granddaughter-in-law of John Albert & Florence May Bates.

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If you believe you might have some Irish ancestry through Holy Name of Mary Parish in Tyendinaga Township/Marysville, Ontario, Canada, you might enjoy a copy of this book ...

The Story of Holy Name of Mary Parish

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Arthur & Mary Doyle Descendants

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A String of Five (Six, really) Generations - From Ireland to the Doyle Dining Room Blog

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Arthur Doyle & Mary (Maiden Name?) Doyle

-Arthur and Mary came from Graiguenamanagh, Ireland to Canada c. 1828 via Quebec and Montreal.

-Arthur was born in 1780 in Graiguenamanagh, Ireland.

-The 1861 census has Mary living with her son Michael and his family.

-Mary was buried in Marysville, Hastings, Ontario in 1869.

-Details of Arthur's passing are still conflicted. One assertion is that he died in 1861 in Tyendinaga, Hastings, Ontario, Canada: 

Descendants of Arthur Doyle and Mary - Graiguenamanagh - Tyendinaga
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Owen Doyle & Margaret (Mary) Shaughnessy Doyle

-Owen Doyle was born in 1807 in Graiguenamanagh, County Kilkenny, Ireland, and died in Tyendinaga Township/Marysville, Ontario, Canada in 1864. He married Margaret (although the memorial stone indicates Mary, the records show Margaret) Shaughnessy at St. Michael's in Belleville in 1834. They had nine children.

-Margaret Shaughnessy was born in 1813 in Ireland, and died in 1897; she was buried in Marysville, Ontario, Canada. 

*For More information on Owen Doyle & Margaret Shaughnessy, click here.  

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Owen Eugene Doyle & Emily/Emma McCormick Doyle

-Owen Eugene Doyle was the sixth child of Owen & Margaret; he was born in 1846 in Lonsdale, Ontario. He married Emily/Emma McCormack/McCormick in 1873 in Canandaigua, NY; it is uncertain how he came to live in Canandaigua. The story goes that he lived a quiet life as a cooper (a barrel-maker). According to Aunt Eileen, Owen E. Doyle died in 1919 back in Canada, but his body was brought to Rochester, NY for burial (see below).

-Emma F. McCormack/McCormick Doyle was the daughter of Francis S. McCormick and Nancy McAdam McCormick; she was born in 1856 in Canandaigua, NY, and was one of about 11 children. Emma married Owen Eugene Doyle in 1873. For a time, the couple lived at 22 Clark Street in Canandaigua. They moved to Rochester at some point. Emma died in 1944 in Rochester, NY. 

*For More information on Owen Eugene Doyle & Emily/Emma McCormack, click here. 

An Excerpt from The Doyle Dining Room Post of July 25, 2010

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John Albert Doyle & Florence May Bates Doyle

-John Albert Doyle and his twin, James Doyle (who lived about six months) were two of six children born to Owen Eugene Doyle and Emma McCormick; they were born in 1884 in Canandaigua, NY, and John Albert died in 1939 in Rochester, NY. John Albert Doyle was a policeman and later started the Doyle Detective Bureau in 1919. He later added an armored car service to the company.

-Florence May Bates Doyle was also born in 1884 in Canandaigua, NY; and died in 1954. John Albert and Florence May got married in 1901 in Canandaigua, NY. 

*For more information on John Albert and Florence May, click here.

The Family of John Albert Doyle & Florence May Bates Doyle

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John Gordon Doyle & Mary Bernadine Daley Doyle

-John Gordon Doyle was the third child of John Albert and Florence Bates. He was born in 1907 in Rochester, NY, and eventually took over the detective portion of the Doyle Detective Bureau. John Gordon married Mary Bernadine Daley circa 1929/1930. John Gordon served as a Lt. Col. in WWII (Ft. Niagara) and died in 1966.

-Mary Bernadine Daley Doyle was the sixth and last child of Daniel Patrick Daley and Anna Jane Moore; she was born in 1907 and died in 1991. For information on Mary Bernadine's brother, Andy Daley, click here: Uncle Andy. For information on Mary Bernadine's Aunt Lizzie Moore, click here: Aunt Lizzie. 

The Family of John Gordon Doyle & Mary Bernadine Daley Doyle

And the trail ends here for one branch of the tree ... John Gordon and Mary Bernadine had six children: Elizabeth, Eileen, J. Gregory, Patricia, Leo, and Michael. From these six children (who would be the sixth generation from Arthur and Mary), 25 grandchildren were born ... and countless great-grandchildren, and great-great-grandchildren, etc.... The sprawl continues and continues!  It was the second child of this family—Eileen (in the striped shirt)—who felt inspired to record family memories and research extra details on this particular branch of Doyle Family history, creating The Doyle Dining Room Blog. 

Some helpful links ...

Descendants of Arthur Doyle and Mary - Graiguenamanagh - Tyendinaga
Facebook Group

Graiguenamanagh, County Kilkenny, Ireland

Holy Name of Mary Parish in Canada

Holy Name of Mary Cemetery in Canada

Tyendinaga Township/Marysville, Ontario, Canada

St. Michael the Archangel Church in Belleville, Ontario, Canada

Canandaigua, NY

Rochester, NY - History

Article on the Tenth Anniversary of the Doyle Detective Bureau

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The First Doyles to Leave Ireland for North America ... for "The Doyle Dining Room" Branch

AN UPDATE!    

It has been thought for some time now that Owen Doyle and Margaret Shaughnessy were the patriarch/matriarch who left Ireland for the New World. Some updated research using new genealogy indexes points strongly to Owen's parents: Arthur and Mary as being the true patriarch/matriarch! How fun to stumble upon one more generation who emigrated from Graiguenamanagh, Ireland! There is a lack of details on Arthur's amount of time in Canada, but he did make it there! 

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