This history began as a mini summary of a family that appeared to have vanished from Canandaigua and the face of the earth. Growing up, we knew the Bates name only in reference to our Great Grandmother Ida Bradfield Bates who lost her husband Henry W. Bates, 1860 - 1889, early in the marriage. Then in 2010 there was a possibility of a Bates relative alive in Alaska. Margie came upon it in her research. We dared to call this person not knowing if she really was the Great Granddaughter of Hulbert and Hannah Bates who would be our Great Grandparents also. Connie returned the call and said that she was that person and was stunned to find out there were relatives left from that side of her family. All her life she was told that the Bates name stopped with her and her three brothers. What stopped was the continuation of the Bates name but as you will see, the Bates continue to exist and are spread throughout the United States and probably other Countries.
Note: the names in orange are the direct grand parents of those who are grandchildren of Hulbert and Hannah Williamson Bates of Canandaigua/Grand Island New York. I have left off the "great" in order to keep it simple. When this is completed you can count back to John Bate of Lydd and that will give you the number of "greats". For my generation, Ida and Henry are the great grandparents of mine and my siblings and first cousins on the Doyle side.
NOTE: Our lineage can be traced back to Sir Gerard Bates (aka Bat) (1240), Lord Mayor of London. Originally of Northumberland, the family later removed to the town of Lydd, Kent, England. His son Sir Nicholas Bates (aka Bat) became Lord Mayor of London in 1250. Lord Mayor were chosen by members of the City's Livery Companies on Michaelmas Day. Guring his one-year term, he fulfils several roles:
. Chief Magistrate of the City
. Admiral of the Port of London
. Chancellor of the City University
. Trustee of Saint Paul's Cathedral
The post of Lord Mayor of London has existed ever since 1189 and was first held by Henry Fizailwyn. Since 1215 the post has been sanctioned by a Royal Charter which stipulates that each year the newly elected Lord Mayor must present himself to the monarch and swear loyalty to the Crown. This is still done in London once a year during an annual procession from the City of London to the City of Westminster.
Sir Gerard and Sir Nicholas Bates served under King Henry III, son of King John (does Robinhood ring a bell?) and grandson of King Henry II.
In the parish church at Lydd may be seen the brass effigies of Sir Nicholas, and of other members of the Bates family buried there, adorned with the coats of arms used by the family in the United States. The ruling monarchy at the time were the Plantagenets. If you would like a sample of the times and living conditions, there are two movies detailing Henry II's reign called THE LION IN WINTER and BECKET both with Peter O'Toole as Henry II.
So let's get started and travel back to 1476 where two wills were found naming John Bate of Lydd as beneficiary of his brother William's Will and his son Henry's Will. John Bate was from the Parish of All Hallows, County of Kent, England, who died in 1522. This information was authenticated by Reverend Newton W. Bates, West Bloomfield, New York, September 1, 1904. He tells us that the Bates' name began with different spellings but he stated that Bat was changed to Bate, then changed to Bates as we travel forward in time. The Reverend also tells us that according to some authorities the name is derived from the Anglo Saxon word "bate" meaning 'contention'. We would certainly identify with that. We also can identify ourselves as descendant from the Saxons and not the Normans. It is important to know that Henry VII was King of England at this time and the majority of the people were Roman Catholic. Therefore we can be almost sure the Bates began as Roman Catholic. Henry stabilized England after a devastating 100 years war. When he died, his son, at age 18, inherited the throne of England....his name is Henry VIII. This I believe was the advent of the Bates becoming part of the Protestant Reformation.
Henry Bate, John's son was from Lydd. His wife's name was Agnes. His children were James, Simon, Andrew and Thomas.
This information was taken from his will dated May 30, 1478.
Thomas Bate of Lydd, died in 1485, leaving two sons, John and William.
John Bate of Lydd, died in 1522, leaving two sons:
He was Jurat (Alderman) of Lydd, and in his will left about 20 pounds to the Lydd church which was All Hallows Church, renamed during the Reformation to All Saints Church and became part of the Church of England. The Church which holds a 1000 people still stands although it was hit by a stray bomb during WWII and needed to be partially rebuilt.
Andrew Bate of Lydd, died in 1533. He had six children:
John Bate of Lydd, Jurat (Alderman), married Mildred Ward October 28, 1546, who was buried June 2, 1577. He married Mary Bennett June 15, 1580. Their children:
James Bate of Lydd, England, yeoman, married May Martine, June 6, 1580. He died March 2, 1614. Their children:
4. (second) Anna
His son James settled at Dorchester, Massachusetts. His son Clement settled at Hingham, Massachusetts (town divided into two towns, the new town is now Cohasset), and probably others settled in neighboring towns. Persistent tradition, states Elder Edward Bates of Weymouth (1605 - 1686) was a brother to James of Dorchester and Clement of Hingham, who had a brother named Edward, born October 8, 1592 and buried October 3, 1616 in England.
The first of the name Bates to come to America was Clement Bates, who, in 1636, sailed from England with his wife, five children, and two servants, in the ship Elizabeth. He settled at Hingham/Cohasset, Massachusetts, on a free land grant given to him by King George I. The land and the house then built is still in possession of his descendants.
Clement, aged 40 yrs. with Anna (Dalrymple) his wife, who was also 40 yrs. of age, and five children embarked at London for new England, Apr. 6, 1635, in the ship "Elizabeth," of which William Stagg was master. He came to Hingham about the time Rev. Peter Hobart and his followers arrived, and on the 18th of Sept. 1635, received a grant of free land on Town (South) St. This lot contained five acres, and was bounded on the N. E. by George Russell, and S.W. by Thomas Johnson. It was the fifth in number from Bachelor (Main) St. and has been in possession of the descendants of the original grantee for nearly two and a half centuries. In 1883 the estate, including the ancient dwelling-house formerly known as the "Anchor Tavern" was sold to the owners of the land adjoining. A portion of the estate however has since been repurchased; and on the spot where the old house stood a dwelling of modern style has been erected, which is occupied by a descendant.
The name Bate was a common one in England for nearly two centuries before the Puritans took their departure for New England, and the ancestors of Clement are traceable for five + generations prior to that period; James, who d. at Lydd in 1614, was the father of Clement of Hingham, Mass., and also of Edward, who settled at Weymouth, Mass., and of James of Dorchester., Mass. Anna, wife of Clement, d. in Hingham. Oct. 1, 1699, at 74 yrs. Clement d. 17 Sept. 1671, at 76 yrs. In her will, dated at Hingham, 12 Oct 1699, gives to eldest s. James "my house-lot next adjoining to my son Joseph, containing four acres, which was given unto me by the town. To sons Joseph and Benjamin, land and other valuables. To son Samuel, my now dwelling-house with the lot of five acres which the house stands upon. Also all my household stuff to my four sons, "etc.
Children of Clement Bates and Anna are:
i. James Bates, born 1621 in England; died Jul 5. 1689; married Ruth Lyford 19 Apr 1643 in Hingham MA; died 09 Mar 1688/89 in Hingham MA.
ii. Clement Bates, born 1623 in England; died Nov 1639; married Ruth. Notes for Clement Bates: History of the Town of Hingham MA, drowned
iii. John Bates, born Bef. 18 Oct 1624 in Biddenden England; died Abt. 18 Dec 1624. Notes for John Bates: Bates Bulletin Series III Vol 1 April 1918 bapt 18 Oct 1624 buried 18 Dec 1624
iv. Rachel Bates, born 1627 in Biddenden England; died Jun 1647.
v. Joseph Bates, born Abt. 1630 in England; died 30 Apr 1706; married Esther Hilliard 09 Jan 1656/57 in Hingham MA.
vi. Unknown Bates, born Bef. 02 Apr 1631. Notes for Unknown Bates: Bates Bulletin Series III Vol 1 April 1918 a child of Clement Bate, buried unbaptized, 2 April 1631
vii. Lt. Benjamin Bates, born 1633 in England; died 28 Nov 1678 in Hingham MA; married Jane Weeks. Notes for Lt. Benjamin Bates: History of the Town of Hingham MA Soldier in King Philip's War. Lt. He left no ch.
viii. Samuel Bates, born Bef. 24 Mar 1638/39; died 1713; married Lydia Lapham 20 Feb 1665/66 in Hingham, Plymouth Co., MA.
Note from the Ship's passenger list:Sailed to America on the Elizabeth embarked April 17, 1635
a taylor, Clement Bates.......40
The following insert is the history of Theodore Bates' induction and separation from the American Revolutionary Army. He is the father of Osee C. Bates, who is the father of Hulbert D. Bates, who is the father of Henry W. Bates, our great Grandfather who married Ida Elizabeth Bradfield.
Bates, Theodore, Athol (also given Royalston).Descriptive list of enlisted men; Capt. Lord's (also given Capt. Oliver's) co., Col. Grout's regt.; age, 17 yrs.; stature, 5 ft.; complexion, light; residence, Athol; enlisted July 8, 1779; enlistment, 9 months; marched to Springfield; mustered by Thomas Newhall, Muster Master, July 2, 1779; also, descriptive list of men raised to reinforce Continental Army for the term of 6 months, agreeable to resolve of June 5, 1780; age, 18 yrs.; stature, 5 ft.; complexion, light; residence, Athol; arrived at Springfield July 6, 1780; marched to camp July 7, 1780, under command of Capt. Dix; also, pay roll for 6 months men raised by the town of Athol for service in the Continental Army during 1780; marched July 2, 1780; discharged Dec. 15, 1780; service, 5 mos. 14 days; also, receipt for bounty paid him by Capt. William Young, Chairman of Class No. 1 of the town of Athol, to serve in the Continental Army for the term of 3 years, dated Worcester, June 21, 1782; also, Private, Col. Benjamin Tupper's (10th) regt.; enlisted April 9, 1782; roll made up to Jan. 1, 1783; service, 8 mos. 22 days.
You can use the information above to pursue membership in the DAR or SAR.
The Bates move to Grand Island, New York
Walter C. Bates, the grandson of Theodore Bates wrote a letter to his family detailing the move to Grand Island, New York in 1907.
"We took the Erie (Canal) to Dale, Wyoming County, New York, where we lived up to the time we moved to Grand Island when I was 10 years old and Theo (Edmund Theodore, his brother) was 19 years old. I have never been back since we left 55 years before." The year of the move was 1852. The U.S. 1850 Census of Erie County, New York records that Osee, the brother of Theodore Bates Jr., had already settled on Grand Island with his family, arriving after 1840 enumeration, and remaining there until after the 1860 enumerations. Walter, the youngest brother, also lived there until 1861, when he enlisted from Tonawanda into the Union Army (100 N. Y. Infantry, Company D). The migration path was Conway, Mass. - New Lebanon, New York - Watervliet, New York -Wyoming County, New York - Grand Island, New York - Cedar County, Iowa, and Carleton, Nebraska.
We need to clear up some confusion here. Theodore Bates (son of Theodore and Abigail) and his wife, Margaret Simmons Bates had a son Osee G. Bates who was born 1824 near the Shaker community at Watervliet; he died August 20, 1860 in the 35th year of his life. He is interred on Grand Island, New York at a small Whitehaven Cemetery on the eastern edge of Grand Island. No other Bates markers are on on this Island. It is believed he did not marry nor had any children. It took time to sort out all the Theodores and the Osee's but we noticed other researchers were having the same mystery challenges also.
My great, great, great Grandfather, Osee C. Bates, son of Theodore and Abigail, had five children with his first wife whose name is unknown at this writing. It is possible that his wife returned to the Shaker Community and Osee stayed in Grand Island and raised his family.
Children of Osee C Bates and mother's name unknown:
1. Hulbert D. Bates, b. 1821 in Grand Island, N.Y. d. 1882 in Canandaigua, New York. m. (1st) Abigail Williamson, died(2nd) Hannah Williamson (sisters) in 1857 from Owego, New York.
2. Ansel W. Bates, sometimes spelled Ancel, b. 1825 in Grand Island, New York, m. (1st) Julia ?, m. (2nd) Emma (Betsey) Bates, his 1st cousin, daughter of Theodore and Margaret Simmons Bates; he married a third time, but we have no data regarding this marriage. He died of asthma much before 1928 at Hadley, Lapear County, Michigan and his wife and first cousin Emma died of consumption about 1863.
Children of Ansel (Hulbert's brother) and Julia Bates:
1. William A., b. 1847...no further data. Two other children, names unknown probably died young.
Children of Ansel and Emma Bates:
1. Dora, b. 1855; Dora had two boys and one girl.
2. Arthur, b. 1858, d. 1926.
3. Theodore was married, we have no information. He died a young man, leaving a wife and child.
4 and 5. two daughters, name unknown
Children of Osee and Harriet Bates, all born on Grand Island.NY
1. Mary Bates, date of birth unknown, married name Davis lived on Grand Island until she was 12. She settled with Mr. Davis in Clio, Lapear County, Michigan. She writes in a letter that her father is Osee and her brothers are Hulbert D., Ansel W., and Theodore. Census data shows that Osee and wife Harriet moved to Clio, Michigan.
2. Julia Bates married a man named Cunningham
3. Catherine, b 1857, d. 1885. No further data.